Sons of Abraham: A Candid Conversation about the Issues That Divide and Unite Jews and Muslims



[Download] ➾ Sons of Abraham: A Candid Conversation about the Issues That Divide and Unite Jews and Muslims ➼ Marc Schneier – E17streets4all.co.uk A prominent rabbi and imam, each raised in orthodoxy, overcome the temptations of bigotry and work to bridge the chasm between Muslims and Jews Rabbi Marc Schneier, the eighteenth generation of a dist Abraham: A MOBI í A prominent rabbi and imam, each raised in orthodoxy, overcome the temptations of bigotry and work to bridge the chasm between Sons of eBook ß Muslims and Jews Rabbi Marc Schneier, the eighteenth generation of a distinguished rabbinical dynasty, grew up deeply suspicious of Muslims, believing them of Abraham: A PDF º all to be anti Semitic Imam Shamsi Ali, who grew up in a small Indonesian village and studied in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, believed that all Jews wanted to destroy Muslims Coming from positions of mutual mistrust, it seems unthinkable that these orthodox religious leaders would ever see eye to eye Yet in the aftermath of, amid increasing acrimony between Jews and Muslims, the two men overcame their prejudices and bonded over a shared belief in the importance of opening up a dialogue and finding mutual respect In doing so, they became not only friends but also defenders of each other s religion, denouncing the twin threats of anti Semitism and Islamophobia and promoting interfaith cooperation In Sons of Abraham, Rabbi Schneier and Imam Ali tell the story of how they became friends and offer a candid look at the contentious theological and political issues that frequently divide Jews and Muslims, clarifying erroneous ideas that extremists in each religion use to justify harmful behavior Rabbi Schneier dispels misconceptions about chosenness in Judaism, while Imam Ali explains the truth behind concepts like jihad and Shari a And on the Israeli Palestinian conflict, the two speak forthrightly on the importance of having a civil discussion and the urgency of reaching a peaceful solution As Rabbi Schneier and Imam Ali show, by reaching a fuller understanding of one another s faith traditions, Jews and Muslims can realize that they are actually united than divided in their core beliefs Both traditions promote kindness, service, and responsibility for the less fortunate and both religions call on their members to extend compassion to those outside the faith In this sorely needed book, Rabbi Schneier and Imam Ali challenge Jews and Muslims to step out of their comfort zones, find common ground in their shared Abrahamic traditions, and stand together and fight for a better world for all.Sons of Abraham: A Candid Conversation about the Issues That Divide and Unite Jews and Muslims

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    If you re looking for a CBR and CBZ reader distinguished rabbinical dynasty, grew up deeply suspicious of Muslims, believing them of Abraham: A PDF º all to be anti Semitic Imam Shamsi Ali, who grew up in a small Indonesian village and studied in Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, believed that all Jews wanted to destroy Muslims Coming from positions of mutual mistrust, it seems unthinkable that these orthodox religious leaders would ever see eye to eye Yet in the aftermath of, amid increasing acrimony between Jews and Muslims, the two men overcame their prejudices and bonded over a shared belief in the importance of opening up a dialogue and finding mutual respect In doing so, they became not only friends but also defenders of each other s religion, denouncing the twin threats of anti Semitism and Islamophobia and promoting interfaith cooperation In Sons of Abraham, Rabbi Schneier and Imam Ali tell the story of how they became friends and offer a candid look at the contentious theological and political issues that frequently divide Jews and Muslims, clarifying erroneous ideas that extremists in each religion use to justify harmful behavior Rabbi Schneier dispels misconceptions about chosenness in Judaism, while Imam Ali explains the truth behind concepts like jihad and Shari a And on the Israeli Palestinian conflict, the two speak forthrightly on the importance of having a civil discussion and the urgency of reaching a peaceful solution As Rabbi Schneier and Imam Ali show, by reaching a fuller understanding of one another s faith traditions, Jews and Muslims can realize that they are actually united than divided in their core beliefs Both traditions promote kindness, service, and responsibility for the less fortunate and both religions call on their members to extend compassion to those outside the faith In this sorely needed book, Rabbi Schneier and Imam Ali challenge Jews and Muslims to step out of their comfort zones, find common ground in their shared Abrahamic traditions, and stand together and fight for a better world for all."/>
  • Hardcover
  • 240 pages
  • Sons of Abraham: A Candid Conversation about the Issues That Divide and Unite Jews and Muslims
  • Marc Schneier
  • 03 March 2017
  • 0807033073

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    Imam Shamsi Ali was born in Indonesia, the country with the most Moslems in the world As he grew older he realized Most people in my village would call themselves Muslims, but they never studied Islam, they did not learn the Qur an, and they held on to a lot of superstition When he moved to Pakistan to continue his studies, he discovered competing views Islam should dominate the world and Islam is how to be a better person, spiritually and socially Eventually he moved to the United S Imam Shamsi Ali was born in Indonesia, the country with the most Moslems in the world As he grew older he realized Most people in my village would call themselves Muslims, but they never studied Islam, they did not learn the Qur an, and they held on to a lot of superstition When he moved to Pakistan to continue his studies, he discovered competing views Islam should dominate the world and Islam is how to be a better person, spiritually and socially Eventually he moved to the United States and was amazed at how different the US is from what he expected On his ride from the airport in New York, the taxi driver was a fellow Muslim who liked living here Rabbi Marc Schneier s family had an eighteen generation line of Orthodox rabbi His insulated world was very different from not only Imam Ali s but from most Americans When he began being among other people, his long held ideas began to change and he found support for those changes within Judaism SONS OF ABRAHAM A Candid Conversation about the Issues That Divide and Unite Jews and Muslims is presented as a dialogue between these two religious leaders as they discuss numerous issues affecting both communities After 9 11, they understood the importance of dialogue between members of both religions and have worked together to increase understanding and cooperation between both communities not only throughout the US but also in other countries Leaders of each group have an obligation to work to dispel hatred and misconceptions within their own community as well as with the other community In alternating chapters, they explain the concepts of caring for people who are not their religion, being a chosen people, of jihad, of shari a law, the meaning of and importance of Israel, Jerusalem, the Holocaust, and a Palestinian state for both groups Omam Ali explains that a lot of actions done by Moslems actually are against Islam, which is a peaceful religion Violence and extremism are not inspired by religion per se but rather by politics, socioeconomics, and a persuasive sense of injustice Shari a lawl is designed to benefit individuals and country, not take over a nation When writing about the importance of Israel, Rabbi Schneier notes Israel and Jerusalem Jewish homeland and capital for 3000 years, not just since 1948, and that it is important that Moslems recognize the meaning of the Holocaust for Jews The imam relates that the first expansion of Islam was when it took control of Jerusalem from the Romans Umar, the caliph, came from Arabia to receive key to the city and said, the Jewish community should have the right to return and settle and worship again He also explained several reasons why Jerusalem has historic important to Moslems I found some inconsistencies and omissions in their comments The imam refers to several lines from the Qur an that have been used to justify acts of violence and explains what those verses meant when they were written and how they have been misinterpreted He does not, however, discuss the infamous Judgment Day will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Jews will hide behind the rocks and the trees, but the rocks and the trees will say Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him except for the gharqad tree, which is one of the trees of the Jews He writes about how, during the days of the first intifada in the early 1990s, when he was a student in Pakistan, Palestinian students in Pakistan privileged received aid from both common people and governments around the world Had motorcycles, gotmoney in scholarships from Saudi Arabia We knew the Palestinians didn t have a state, but they seemed to be enjoying lifethan we were, and to be honest, some international students like me were a bit jealous Later he writes about the suffering of the Palestinians today without much comment about the role the Palestinian leaders and other Arab Moslem countries play in their plight He also condemns the killing of innocent Israelis by rockets launched by Palestinians and equates it with Israeli bombs killing innocent Palestinians He does not mention that the Palestinians who fire the rockets deliberately launch them from civilian areas in order to maximize civilian casualties He blames Israeli settlements for some of the hardships of the Palestinians and the failure to reach a peace agreement but ignores Israel demolishing all the settlements in Gaza which led to terrorist attacks instead of peace and prosperity, especially for the Palestinians living in Gaza He also doesn t mention the way Palestinian children are indoctrinated to hate Jews and Israelis by their teachers and leaders They both speak of both people havingin common with each other than they have with other groups and having the same heritage Abraham The rabbi refers to Abraham s sacrifice of his son, noting that Jews and Christians say that Isaac was the son while Moslems claim it was Ishmael There is no explanation given for the discrepancy SONS OF ABRAHAM offers hope as it shows how people from extremely different backgrounds can work together to dispel myths and bring understanding to their communities It is well written and formatted

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    Here is a book that gives you both sides of the Muslim Jewish issues for lack of a better word Honest, candid, and illuminating A Rabbi and an Imam begin by relating their story, how they forged a relationship that led to a joint effort to combat anti semitism and Islamophobia Its a model that can be replicated anywhere, and at any time.

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    Cover dan sinopsis buku ini langsung menarik perhatianku.Tulisan di covernya Anak anak Ibrahim Dialog terbuka mengenai isu isu yang memisahkan dan menyatukan Muslim Yahudi.Membaca tulisan di covernya membuatku penasaran mengenai isu apa yang menyatukan, mengingat selama ini aku lebih sering menerima informasi yang memisahkan dan membuatku menyadari bahwa aku hanya tahu sedikit atau mungkin tidak sama sekali mengenai Yahudi.Sinopsisnya juga membuat penasaran Rabi Marc Schneier, keturunan genera Cover dan sinopsis buku ini langsung menarik perhatianku.Tulisan di covernya Anak anak Ibrahim Dialog terbuka mengenai isu isu yang memisahkan dan menyatukan Muslim Yahudi.Membaca tulisan di covernya membuatku penasaran mengenai isu apa yang menyatukan, mengingat selama ini aku lebih sering menerima informasi yang memisahkan dan membuatku menyadari bahwa aku hanya tahu sedikit atau mungkin tidak sama sekali mengenai Yahudi.Sinopsisnya juga membuat penasaran Rabi Marc Schneier, keturunan generasi kedelapan belas dinasti rabinik terkenal , tumbuh besar dengan menyimpan rasa curiga terhadap umat Islam, yakin mereka adalah antisemit Imam Shamsi Ali, tumbuh besar di desa kecil di Indonesia dan belajar di Pakistan dan Arab Saudi, yakin semua orang Yahudi ingin menghancurkan Muslim Datang dari posisi yang sama sama tidak percaya, sepertinya mustahil kedua pemimpin agama ortodoks ini bisa sepaham Namun, setelah peristiwa 11 September, di tengah tengah kesengitan yang menajam anatara Yahudi dan Muslim, kedua pria ini mengalahkan prasangka mereka dan bersatu dalam keyakinan bersama, yaitu pentingnya membuka dialog dan saling menghormati Dalam prosesnya, mereka tak sekedar menjadi teman, tetapi juga membela agama rekannya, mengecam ancaman antisemitisme dan Islamofobia, serta menggalakkan kerja sama lintas agama.Buku ini dibuka dengan kisah sejarah atau semacam biografi singkat Rabi Marc Schneier dan Imam Shamsi Ali.Membaca kisah Rabi Marc Schneier membuatku berpikir jika aku terlahir sebagai seorang Yahudi dan mendengar bahwa Muslim membenci Yahudi hanya karena aku seorang Yahudi, mungkin aku juga akan turut membenci muslim Islam.Membuatku berpikir tidakkah ini lucu Muslim membenci Yahudi karena berpikir Yahudi membenci Muslim Dan Yahudi membenci Muslim karena berpikir Muslim membenci Yahudi Buku ini mengajak kita untuk fokus pada persamaan antara Yahudi dan Islam dan mulai membangun dialog untuk hidup damai diantara dua komunitas Mengajak kita agar keluar zona nyaman demi menemukan keserasian.Menurut saya tidak ada perbedaan di antara antisemitisme dan Islamofobia Keduanya merupakan pola pikir yang menyakitkan, merendahkan, memecah belah yang dimotori oleh rasa takut, salah informasi, dan rasa sedih Orang orang ingin mencari keadilan bagi kesalahan yang nyata maupun yang dibayangkan tetapi, menyebarkan hukuman kepada suatu kelompok kambing hitam yang disamaratakan begitu saja merupakan tindak penghakiman, dan sayangnya tindakan ini cukup umum dilakukan oleh umat manusia.Kedengkian hati semacam ini tidak pernah terpuaskan, terus berputas dalam siklus kebodohan dan amarah yang tanpa akhir dan malah hanya menggerogoti jiwanya sendiri Rasa benci terhadap orang lain biasanya menjadi alasan yang mudah bagi si pembenci untuk memaafkan sesuatu yang sesungguhnya tidak ia miliki Satu satunya penangkal adalah umat Yahudi dan umat Islam bersatu melawan antisemitisme maupun Islamofobia dalam ikatan persaudaraan dan persahabatan, serta memerangi kebodohan dengan pengetahuan dan kebencian dengan kasih sayang Sebagai seorang muslim, saya mengalami kepahitan Islamofobia di dalam masyarakat kita Dan karena saya tidak ingin ini terjadi kepada saya, saya juga tidak ingin ini terjadi pada orang lain Antisemitisme dan Islamofobia merupakan dua nama berbeda, tetapi memiliki sifat kejam yang sama Maka, penting bagi komunitas Islam mapun Yahudi untuk menguasai kecenderungan kecenderungan buruk yang ada di tengah tengah kita Kita semua harus menghadapi ketidaksetaraan dan ketidakadilan di dunia ini, luka luka yang perlu disembuhkan, serta fakta tak terbantahkan bahwa kita semua bersama sama terlibat di dalamnya Buku ini juga membawa pesan untuk tidak menggeneralasi , ya memang ada Yahudi yang jahat, tapi hanya karena seorang sebagian yang jahat bukan berarti seluruh komunitas Yahudi jahat Begitu pula dengan Islam dan muslim, ya memang ada muslim yang jahat tapi bukan berarti seluruh muslim jahat Tidak ada gunanya jika masing masing pihak menganggap dirinya sebagai satu satunya korban di dalam konflik ini dan menggunakan perasaan sebagai korban ini untuk membenarkan segala perbuatannya, bahkan jika perbuatan tersebut salah.Cara terbaik untuk menangani hal ini adalah dengan membangkitkan kesadaran bahwa kedua belah pihak adalah korban Sebab saya menyinggung soal kedua belah pihak yang merasa menjadi korban dan mengalah pada psikologi korban kedua pihak tidak mengakui kesalahannya Kita perlu mengakui kekurangan kekurangan kita dan harus memperlihatkan kerelaan kita untuk menerima kompromi, yang memang, akan terasa menyakitkan bagi kedua belah pihak Selama keduanya bersikeras mendapatkan kembali setiap senti tanah, konflik ini tidak akan bisa diselesaikan Jihad kecil merujuk pada konflik bersenjata jenis apapun Ini ditujukan hanya demi mempertahankan diri, walaupun, sayangnya istilah ini dicomot oleh istilah negatif oleh orang orang yang salah memahaminya Orang orang yang menggunakan nama Islam sambil menghasut pembunuhan atau melukai orang lain sesungguhnya melakukan tindakan yang bersebrangan dengan kehendak Allah dan yang dia wajibkan Bagaimana mungkin membenarkan serangan teroris yang dirancang untuk melukai orang orang tak berdosa padahal Al Quran memerintahkan untuk tidak melakukan perbuatan semacam itu Jadi, pada dasarnya, Tuhan menyerukan orang orang Ibrani yang pada masa itu berhasil menyelamatkan diri ke Mesir dan berusaha mengambil alih tanah mereka atas perintah Tuhan agar tidak memperlakukan orang orang non Yahudi yang tinggal disana dengan perbuatan kejam sebagaimanan mereka pernah diperlakukan Ia memerintahkan mereka untuk mengingat sejarah penderitaan mereka sendiri dan bangkit melawan kecenderungan manusia untuk merasa takut dan tidak mempercayai orang lain sehingga memperlakukannya sebagai ancaman Hanya dengan membangun ikatan komunikasi dan kerjasama dengan agama lain, kita bisa mulai mengasihinya Dengan Cara itulah, lingkaran rasa benci dan kekerasan yang telah mengikuti umat manusia di sepanjang sejarah akan terputus Mengasihi sesama anggita etnis atau agama sendiri tidaklah cukup, meskipun ini merupakan langkah pertama yang sangat penting Kita pun harus mengasihi agama lain.Mengapa ungkapan kasihi sesamamu malah mendapat posisi yang lebih unggul dibanding kasihi orang asing diantara umat Yahudi, Kristen, maupun agama lainnya Sebab, kedua perintah tersebut memerintahkan orang orang untuk keluar dari zona nyaman mereka, dari keluarga dan teman teman mereka, dan mendekati orang orang yang pada situasi umum cenderung tidak mereka ajak bicara Namun, sesuai dengan sifat alami manusia, meski mengasihi sesama merupakan tindakan yang sudah cukup sulit untuk dilakukan sebagian besar dari kita, perintah itu masih lebih mudah dicapai dibanding mengasihi orang asing Membaca buku ini membuat pengetahuan tentang Yahudiku bertambah Salah satunya tentang isu keterpilihan umat Yahudi.Selama berabad abad, dengan beberapa pengecualian yang penting, para intelektual cemerlang terkemuka Yahudi berkata bahwa keterpilihan Yahudi berarti kita adalah sebuah bangsa tertentu dengan sebuah misi yang unik, tetapi bukan berarti kita lebih baik dari bangsa bangsa lain.Yang menarik adalah ketika Taurat membicarakan keterpilihan umat Yahudi, jelas terpapar bahwa misi kami adalah membawa sistem agama monoteisme yang baru kepada umat manusia alih alih membawa Yudaisme itu sendiri ke umat lain Kami, umat Yahudi jelas jelas bukan umat yang mengajak masuk, yang hendak mengubah dunia agar memeluk agama Yahudi Bahkan, sebagaimana yang telah diketahui luas, masuk agama Yahudi sangatlah sulit Itu sebabnya, umat kami berjumlah sangat sedikit.Jadi, Umat Yahudi datang dari berbagai kondisi dengan beragam definisi diri dan berbagai identitas Namun, kembali ke isu keterpilhan, saya percaya bahwa semua umat Yahudi terpilih untuk menunjukkan suatu takdir istimewa, yaitu sebuah identitas Yahudi Mandat ini mencakup umat Yahudi yang mendefinisikan hubungan mereka dengan Yudaisme dan orang orang Israel sebagai sebuah kebangsaaan atau sebuah budaya, begitu pula bagi mereka yang menghubungkan Yudaisme sebagai sebuah keyakinan.Istilah keterpilihan pada hakikatnya mengisyaratkan superioritas Mungkin, seluruh kontroversi ini bisa saja diperbaiki dengan adanya terjamahan yang lebih cermat dan seksama atas istilah bahasa Ibrani, am segulah Pada umumnya, selama ini kata ini diterjemahkan ke dalam bahasa non Yahudi sebagai bangsa terpilih Namun, makna harfiahnya sebagaimanan dinyatakan dalam Taurat Keluaran 19 5 Ulangan 7 6 14 2 dan 26 18 dapat diterjemahkan secara lebih akurat sebagai bangsa terkasih Jadi, tentu saja terminologi , am segulah bangsa terkasih merujuk kepada hubungan istimewa yang Tuhan miliki dengan umat Yahudi Ini menerangkan bahwa di periode biblikal, Dia memiliki keterlibatan langsung dengan dan rasa kasih kepada umat Yahudi sehingga dia tidak hanya mengekspresikannya, tetapi juga berkali kali bertindak Seperti yang telah saya sebutkan, saya yakin Tuhan memilih umat Yahudi untuk misi istimewa, yaitu menyebarkan monoteisme etis di dunia dan misi ini berbeda dari misi misi untuk bangsa dan keyakinan lain yang Dia pilih.Shamsi bercerita kepada saya bahwa dalam teologi Islam, para penganut Islam yang tidak berbuat sesuai dengan tanggung jawab umat terbaik maka kehilangan tempat mereka di dalam posisi tersebut Pernyataan tersebut memberi tahu saya bahwa dalam Islam, sebagimana juga di dalam Yahudi, titik beratnya terletak pada tanggung jawab dan juga pada hak hak istimewanya Rasa tanggung jawab terhadap seluruh umat manusia tersebut, terutama dalam konsep tikkun olam dan islah, memang, sebagaimana yang ditulis kawan saya Shamsi Ali, menunjukkan satu titik pertemuan yang menakjubkan dari keyakinan keyakinan kita Btw, bagian favoritku adalah membaca kisah hidup Imam Shamsi Ali Tentang bagaimana beliau tidak berencana melanjutkan pendidikan, tapi kemudian berhasil masuk ke pesantren dan bahkan mendapat beasiswa ke Pakistan Kisah hidup beliau membuatku merasa optimis bahwa Allah mengatur hidup hambanya dan sering kali rizki datang dari arah yang tak disangka sangka Tidak semua isu antara Muslim dan Yahudi dibahas dalam buku ini, meski begitu menurutku Rabi Marc Schneier dan Imam Shamsi Ali telah berani memulai dan membuka dialog tentang komunitas Yahudi dan Islam Ada juga bagian dari buku ini yang perlu perenungan lebih lanjut dan mungkin ditunda untuk menyatakan setuju atau tidak setuju Seperti yang Imam Shamsi Ali katakan Jika Anda bertemu tiga orang Islam, mungkin Anda akan menemukan sembilan pendapat terhadap segala isu, setiap saat Dalam perbedaan pendapat apapun, kita sebagai manusia yang rentan berbuat kesalahan hanya akan mendapat sebagian informasi atau wawasan yang disebabkan batasan dan sudut pandang orang orang terkait Hanya Tuhan yang Melihat dan Mengetahui semuanya, bisa mengetahui kisah sepenuhnya atas peristiwa apa pun Oleh karena itu, hanya Tuhan yang bisa menghakimi dan alasan mengapa kita tidak memikul tanggung jawab tersebut Sebaliknya, kita harus berusaha mengubah hal hal dalam diri kita yang tidak layak ditunjukkan di hadapan Tuhan entah itu sifat rakus, malas, takut, abai atau cemburu Jika ada aspek dalam diri yang malu kita perlihatkan di hadapan Tuhan, ini adalah aspek aspek yang perlu kita perbaiki agar semakin dekat dengan peniruan yang layak akan nilai nilai yang Tuhan ingin kita wujudkan.Jihad besar adalah perang melawan diri sendiri, sementara jihad kecil adalah perang melawan orang lain Maksudnya, Jihad besar adalah perjuangan yang umum bagi kita semua perjuangan untuk jujur, setia, berderma, tidak iri hati, tidak sombong, serta menjauhi sifat iri, dusta, dang ankuh Jihad besar mendorong kita untuk mengatasi jutaan sifat cenderung kita sebagai manusia, rasakan pada suatu masa dalam hidup kita Kita harus berjuang keras untuk menaklukan berbagai cela dan kekurangan ini demi menjadi orang yang lebih baik Inilah yang disebut perjuangan internal dan spiritual Membaca buku ini memberi secercah harapan bahwa mungkin suatu saat nanti di tingkat global muslim dan yahudi dapat hidup berdampingan secara damai

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    I found the first portion of this book to be a shameless credential parade of the author s accomplishments and achievements there isn t thing wrong, of course, with establishing credibility with your audience, but did it really need multiple chapters dedicated to it Once past this elephant in the room, the book settles down and gets to the point what are the issues that dived Jews and Muslims The book does a good job of explaining the differences, however, the real sustenance that I sought w I found the first portion of this book to be a shameless credential parade of the author s accomplishments and achievements there isn t thing wrong, of course, with establishing credibility with your audience, but did it really need multiple chapters dedicated to it Once past this elephant in the room, the book settles down and gets to the point what are the issues that dived Jews and Muslims The book does a good job of explaining the differences, however, the real sustenance that I sought were the root causes did an Okay job at this , and how to solve them little to know suggestions here I was impressed with the amount of knowledge of Judaism and Islam that are imparted by the authors and for this I was grateful, and personally considered this the saving grace of the book Sons of Abraham is a decent spring board into learningabout how at least prominent leaders of the faith think, feel, and act

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    Pembahasan apa yang dapat mendamaikan 2 agama yang bermusuhan ini Islam dan Yahudi merupakan agama dalam kandungan yang sama.

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    This was a little too pedantic for me I was not able to finish it

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    A fascinating and important conversation

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    It was nice to see the Muslim world to includethan the Middle East The imam, though he attended schooling in the Middle East, is from Indonesia and now resides in the US.This book was set up differently than I had expected, with the rabbi and imam writing alternating chapters The approach worked beautifully though and gave real insight into both of them and allowed them to delve into various topics The fist section of the book gives the background of these two men I loved this sectio It was nice to see the Muslim world to includethan the Middle East The imam, though he attended schooling in the Middle East, is from Indonesia and now resides in the US.This book was set up differently than I had expected, with the rabbi and imam writing alternating chapters The approach worked beautifully though and gave real insight into both of them and allowed them to delve into various topics The fist section of the book gives the background of these two men I loved this section as it offered some interesting revelations The most prominent for me was that these two, who advocate pretty much throughout the book for unity and understanding between their faiths and others, had some pretty big prejudices of their own to work through But they were willing to work on them and move past them Another interesting tidbit that popped up was the imam s report of Meccans during Hajji It surprised him and me as I was reading it that many Meccans haven t done the Hajji, saying oh, I ll do that later on During the second and third sections of the book they dealwith the various misconceptions and hot button issues surround Islam and Judaism Of course Sept 11th and the portrayal of Muslims as terrorists or, perhapsaccurately, as sheep who only listen to extremists was addressed Israel, the settlements, and the idea of a self governing Palestinian state next to Israel was discussed too The imam recounted how when he s overseas giving lectures or talking to folks he often gets asked things such as Do Americans accept you Are you allowed to practice your religion I was slightly surprised and pleased that his response was that yes, he was accepted and that in many ways America is aMuslim country than some of the so called Muslim countries in the world That secularism in America isn t like secularism in some European countries where religion is relegated completely to the private sphere and one cannot openly show religious symbols or the activity of one s faith In America he is welcome to practice his faith and no one can stop him He, the imam, actually goes on at one point to say that in some ways Sept 11th was a blessing for Muslims in America, because afterward many people decided to see what Islam was actually about As people learnedabout what the Koran actually says and how Muslims believe and worship they becameaccepting.I did feel a bit put off at the beginning by the rabbi because as he was giving his background he seemed almost to be name dropping oh, and yes this famous person came to my dad s synagogue when I was a kid or I was seated next to so and so and this other notable person s rabbi I realize he wasn t and that by virtue of growing up and living in the social and geographic area he did is that those folks just happened to have had an impact on his life Still it made me at time eager to get on to the next chapter by the imam

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    Sebuah langkah yang baik untuk mendamaikan kedua agama, yang telah dari dulu mempunyai beberapa pertikaian yang belum terselesaikan.Membaca buku ini, saya melihat kedua tokoh, Rabi Marc dan Imam Shamsi, berupaya semaksimal mungkin menjelaskan pandangan dari agama Yahudi dan Islam berdasarkan pemahaman dan hakikatnya agama tersebut, berbeda dari paparan media maupun penganut agama masing masing yang sering terlihat dari perilaku perilakunya yang bertentangan dengan ajaran agama Keduanya menampil Sebuah langkah yang baik untuk mendamaikan kedua agama, yang telah dari dulu mempunyai beberapa pertikaian yang belum terselesaikan.Membaca buku ini, saya melihat kedua tokoh, Rabi Marc dan Imam Shamsi, berupaya semaksimal mungkin menjelaskan pandangan dari agama Yahudi dan Islam berdasarkan pemahaman dan hakikatnya agama tersebut, berbeda dari paparan media maupun penganut agama masing masing yang sering terlihat dari perilaku perilakunya yang bertentangan dengan ajaran agama Keduanya menampilkan arti dari agama masing masing dan menolak paham kekerasan dan ekstrimisme.Sebelumnya, saya tidak tau pasti bagaimana ajaran Yahudi Melalui buku ini saya mendapatkan beberapa pencerahan namun saya menyayangkan penjelasan Rabi Marc, yang agaknya terlalu berputar putar dan kurang dalam ketika menjelaskan misi utama mengapa Israel begitu penting bagi agama Yahudi Sepenting apa sehingga kurang dalamnya penjelasan tentang arti kedamaian dalam Yahudi menjadikan saya bertanya tanya, dan menyimpulkan dengan singkat bahwa ada sesuatu yang ditutupi sehingga penolakan tentang kebiadaban Israel terhadap Palestina kurang dibahas dan kurang dilaknati Bisa saja ini karena kurangnya pemahaman saya dalam mengerti maksud yang ingin disampaikan.Berbeda dari Rabi Marc, Imam Shamsi justru memunculkan hakikat Islam dengan literatur Al Quran dan Hadis sehingga menjadi nyatalah tujuan dan ajaran Islam Bahasa yang disampaikannya pun mampu menjelaskan apa itu Islam di mata yang belum pernah mengenalnya Baik itu terkait tujuan, arti perdamaian, dan tanah Palestina Tentu penjelasan seperti ini harus paling tidak sama, dengan apa yang harus disampaikan Rabi Marc Sedangkan yang saya lihat, Rabi Marc terlalu banyak menampilkan argumen pribadi dibandingkan apa utamanya ajaran yang disampaikan Yahudi terkait perdamaian, tanah yang diperebutkan, dan sikap dan cara pandang Yahudi Ada, memang ada penjelasan tersebut tapi saya banyak mendapatinya dari hasil interpretasi Rabi rabi sebelumnya, dan hanya ada beberapa dari Taurat Komentar ini saya berikan bukan untuk menolak perdamaian, melaikan hanya bentuk pemahaman yang belum puas mengenai sudut pandang Yahudi, terhadap kemunculan Israel dan arti perebutan tanah Palestina Melihat sejarah yang pernah saya ketahui, tanah yang sampai saat ini diperebutkan adalah milik Palestina, dan dulunya rakyat Palestina membolehkan dan mempertamukan umat Yahudi untuk bertandang dan hidup berdampingan, tetapi kenapa sekarang umat Yahudi ingin merebut rumah dari tuan rumah Bahkan dengan cara yang sangat. maaf biadab

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    Sons of Abraham a candid conversation about the issues that divide and unite Muslims and Jews, by Rabbi Marc Schneier and Imam Shamsi Ali Beacon, 2013 A very interesting, challenging book Schneier is the Orthodox son of an Orthodox rabbi, Upper East Side society elite He is founding rabbi of the Hampton Synagogue in Westhampton Shamsi was born and raised in Indonesia He was a good student whose family used all their money to support his studies Eventually he went to Pakistan for furth Sons of Abraham a candid conversation about the issues that divide and unite Muslims and Jews, by Rabbi Marc Schneier and Imam Shamsi Ali Beacon, 2013 A very interesting, challenging book Schneier is the Orthodox son of an Orthodox rabbi, Upper East Side society elite He is founding rabbi of the Hampton Synagogue in Westhampton Shamsi was born and raised in Indonesia He was a good student whose family used all their money to support his studies Eventually he went to Pakistan for further studies, where he began to struggle with the different concepts of Islam Jews were bad, and the US was a villain He got a teaching job in Saudi Arabia and found that Arabs looked down on non Arab Muslims, and that Wahhabi Islam, in Saudi, was much too rigid and restrictive In 1996 he was appointed imam of the Islamic Center in Queens, and came to the United States They both had to overcome their prejudices and aversions to Muslims and Jews, respectively Eventually they found one another, and began twinning synagogues and mosques to further an open dialogue In alternate chapters they write about anti Semitism, Holocaust denial, Israel, Palestine, jihad, loving the stranger, Sharia, etc They both insist that, properly understood, Judaism and Islam can, should and must be able to coexist Schneier says that Islam is much closer to Judaism than Christianity is they both are clear about their Abrahamic heritage, neither of them deals with idols They both are aware of the deep distrust and suspicion each holds for the other Shamsi decries Muslim extremism, intolerance and violence He says that Islam is a peaceful religion, that Sharia only applies to Muslims, who accept civil rule, he says that there are many misinterpretations and misunderstandings of Islam that permit honor killings, oppression of women, etc, citing the Koran, the Suras and hadiths etc Some of his interpretations seem to strain to get to the peaceful part But so do some of Schneier s interpretations of Jewish law and lore I do understandnow about what is Torah, Halacha, Talmud, etc The two of them constantly talk about their dear friends Schneier and Shamsi a bit too much, I think But a good book that I hope to remember

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